$25K Tiffany 5711 Rep?

I’m in a watch trading group on facebook. Lately some custom DiW Daytonas and Prohunters have rolled through. They are clearly advertised by sellers as aftermarket etc.

Tonight I watched a Tiffany 5711 non-genuine watch sell for $25k. Apparently has a 5711 movement which I don’t doubt. Case/dial/bracelet are all custom it says. Just curious to gauge people’s thoughts on this. Imo, this is the most expensive and crazy franken I have ever seen. It sold in under a couple hours.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4e76aafee1.jpg

I think they take a movement from a Calatrava,

What I heard is they buy a calatrava with the same movement, melt the calatrava case for gold and put the gen movement in an aftermarket case. Usually to shower it with diamonds, but never seen it done plain like this

This is 100 % fake.

Scam of the year for rep watches at those prices.

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Originally Posted by RolexExplorer

I think they take a movement from a Calatrava,

What I heard is they buy a calatrava with the same movement, melt the calatrava case for gold and put the gen movement in an aftermarket case. Usually to shower it with diamonds, but never seen it done plain like this

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Interesting. I was wondering where the hell they just source a movement from besides stealing real watches. This makes sense though. Cannot believe someone paid $25k [emoji23] - I’m sure the movement is valuable but cmon.

I would never buy a watch of that price and status on FB Marketplace.

No way .

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Originally Posted by Horace Derwent

I would never buy a watch of that price and status on FB Marketplace.

No way .

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I and several friends have bought rolexes via that group. Lots of jewelers with reputable storefronts just moving stuff wholesale/naked.

Lately I started seeing people move rolexes with aftermarket parts (bezels, bracelets) etc. People with not much experience in the group specifically. Recently a new guy got popped for selling one as fully genuine but it had an aftermarket bracelet.

Then this guy just comes in with this franken Patek which is just blatantly a rep watch lol. I don’t think I’d buy from the group anymore unless it was a previous shop I’d done biz with.

The group used to be really strict on things but they seem to have loosened up waaay too much. As you said, at that price point, too dangerous to allow slack on anything that isn’t 100% genuine.


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Originally Posted by tityboii

I and several friends have bought rolexes via that group. Lots of jewelers with reputable storefronts just moving stuff wholesale/naked.

Lately I started seeing people move rolexes with aftermarket parts (bezels, bracelets) etc. People with not much experience in the group specifically. Recently a new guy got popped for selling one as fully genuine but it had an aftermarket bracelet.

Then this guy just comes in with this franken Patek which is just blatantly a rep watch lol. I don’t think I’d buy from the group anymore unless it was a previous shop I’d done biz with.

The group used to be really strict on things but they seem to have loosened up waaay too much. As you said, at that price point, too dangerous to allow slack on anything that isn’t 100% genuine.


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A franken PP with a gen movement for $25,000 in a rep case, with rep dial, and rep bracelet, and rep crystal and rep crown and rep hands is a rip off.

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Originally Posted by daytonadragon

A franken PP with a gen movement for $25,000 in a rep case, with rep dial, and rep bracelet, and rep crystal and rep crown and rep hands is a rip off.

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Completely agree. Probably was no diff from a tiff 5711 we could just buy from a TD here. Pop movement in, and enjoy your profit.

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Originally Posted by daytonadragon

A franken PP with a gen movement for $25,000 in a rep case, with rep dial, and rep bracelet, and rep crystal and rep crown and rep hands is a rip off.

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I mean a steel Nautilus with time only movement for a retail of 35 000 is a rip off aswell, but who am I lol

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I mean a steel Nautilus with time only movement for a retail of 35 000 is a rip off aswell, but who am I lol

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And to top it off the so called gen PP movement could be a franken.

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Originally Posted by tityboii

The group used to be really strict on things but they seem to have loosened up waaay too much.

As you said, at that price point, too dangerous to allow slack on anything that isn’t 100% genuine.

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Exactly, alternative extists...SO MANY alternatives !

wow

To add to this, I saw a green dial PP sell for $120k. Dial was “swapped but genuine” - when seller was questioned where the dial came from, he had no idea. It still sold. May make another post separate about it.


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Originally Posted by tityboii

To add to this, I saw a green dial PP sell for $120k. Dial was “swapped but genuine” - when seller was questioned where the dial came from, he had no idea. It still sold. May make another post separate about it.


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How do you know the dial was genuine.

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Originally Posted by daytonadragon

How do you know the dial was genuine.

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Exactly. You don’t lol. Some idiot ponied up. Just wrote a full new post about that separately for entertainment.


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