Quote Originally Posted by Brightlight View Post
Yes, SFA, that's why I said it didn't apply to you. Sadly, I think you're right about your society having gone too far. We haven't yet gone that far in the UK, thank goodness, but we are going that way, thanks to the influences we've imported. But how are we to get out of the spiral?

You're spot on too about dehumanising not working, that's got a lot to do with my feeling the way I do.
As odd as it sounds, considering my job and location, I think the Muslims have it down right. YUP! I said it!

There are quite a few members here who have been to / lived in / served in the Middle East. Concepts such as respect for family, respect for elders and most importantly SHAME have weight and value here. That is what society at large has lost and I do not seeing us getting it back anytime soon if ever.

I've pretty much written off the United States long term. I have property here in Iraq (well Kurdistan, almost another world). There I would have no need for a firearm, as a matter of fact I walk the streets unarmed quite regularly when I am there.