Yes Paypal Gift or Paypal services. The whole point of not mentioning watch anywhere on PP and not gifting it, is that after 45 day of you and mods trying to get things resolved, is to have that protection. Never ever gift. I do feel for you as A$$holes are everywhere thinking they can come up with quick cash by ripping off a 1-2 people per forum at the same time. while the only net a couple grand at most, they may be gambling junkies and the reason you can't find them is that their bookie had them pound into a rehab hospital, or..they were hit by a car. I am always leery of many of the offers offered in the Rep trade area, even in the VIP. I have purchased 2 watches from other members, and I may have paid a bit oo much, on one, but the watch was mint and the strap was nice, but used gently. The other was a great purchase of a homage.

I see some frankness and mods and wonder why they expect others to pay for the mods of franken projects that they don't seem to be happy with. franken are always a risky buy, but as it has been said before Caveat Emptor.