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    Default Baby, Give It Up!: Everybody wants you . . .

    (I want to first thank my mother for giving me some of the ideas for this post and helping me with ideas, even though she'll never read this because she generally hates computers and uses them only when she has to. She's actually very excited that on a forum dedicated to fake watches that people may be interested in this information.)

    I'm referring to giving up your time and experience and knowledge to help make the world around you a safer, more loving place for those without the ability to buy FOUR PLANET OCEANS, one after another until they get seemingly easy details right. LOL

    I often like to discuss, vehemently sometimes, and defend the position that looking as good outwardly as one possible can is nothing to be taken lightly. I believe that eating healthy, keeping your body exercised and toned, growing stronger in your faith (with which religion you are affiliated), being well-educated and looking presentable is something that everyone should hold as the ideal, striving towards those goals if they are not already. I myself workout three times a week (aerobics (with weight training for muscle tone), yoga (bikram yoga, too) and pilates); I eat healthy (with an occasional indulgence); I am SLOWLY working on my master's and would be spending extravagantly on clothes and accessories if I wasn't so good at finding a deal through PAINSTAKING shopping (I will squeeze a nickel until the buffalo poops!).

    A friend of mine who is an artist in Baltimore painted a picture that hangs in the corner of the living room and it's an abstract face that sums up how I feel about life in general: "Beauty is not a need but an ecstasy!" For me, beauty is a term that covers many different things.



    While I certainly espouse people outwardly radiating classic, eternal good taste with a modern yet conservative approach to style, I believe helping improve the lives of others is singularly the most attractive and beautiful thing someone can do. If you have a great deal in your life, whether it's inner peace, money or knowledge, sharing that with someone who lacks those things enriches everyone's life, lives you may not ever know you even touched. For example, the one person you teach CPR to could easily go and save another person's life at restaurant or sporting event in the future. You've made an impact not on just your own life, but two others as well! This could possibly bring back some of that emotional or spiritual purpose I often read about members feeling they've lost. They seemingly have every tangible thing they want, but still feel aimless, unfulfilled or like their lives have little meaning.

    When I was small, old enough to go to school I believe, my parents got both me and my sister involved in charity and volunteer work. When other kids were enjoying their time during holidays or breaks, my parents made sure that we gave back to society and helped anyone in need. They never let us forget that although we had everything we wanted growing up with no fear of ever "going without, " others were not as fortunate. I actually got to experience this even further when I visited Russia a few years back with a friend.





    My mother, a pious and surprisingly guilt-free Catholic, always said that since we were blessed with so much, it was our moral responsibility to do as much for the less fortunate as we could. My mother is like a mini-Mother Theresa in much better shoes. She has been the chair person of every Red Cross chapter she's been in, only recently stepping out of chair person duties to focus on traveling more with my dad. If there was a house fire (which is the Red Cross' big thing in helping with), my mom was there right after the firemen offering support WHILE the house was still burning (thank you scanner). My mother said for members looking to volunteer in their areas (continental US and internationally), visit the Red Cross website and go to the Volunteer area. She said that if you don't know right off what you would like do, just sign up as the Red Cross has use for people with all kinds of skills; they'll match you to what is need!



    My father's major charity of choice when I was growing up was Habitat for Humanity. My dad is very, very proud of his home and stressed the importance of home and family to me when I was growing up. He was adamant about others who did not have homes feeling that same sense of security and sanctuary that he felt and provided for us. I remember watching him work on home sites when I was a kid and I wanted to help but I didn't really want to get dirty. Now that I'm an adult, I definitely plan on helping build at least ONE house to make up for all the running around and screaming I did years ago. What makes me respect this group more is the fact that I had the honor to meet Jimmy Carter and Millard Fuller at a fundraiser in Hazelhurst, Georgia. Both are really wonderful men whose commitment to helping people have a safe and secure home is truly commendable.



    My own charity I recommend is mentoring and specifically Mentoring.org which can connect you to many community organizations near you that you can get involved with. I mentor a little girl once a month near my home and she's an absolute delight. We play Barbies, go out to eat and read together, nothing too heavy since she's fairly young. You DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT have to be a CEO or a material success to make a difference in a child's life. There's so many children in less-than-ideal home situations that need the guidance of someone caring and stable. I know there are a few wonderful, well-adjusted men and women on this board who I think would make fantastic mentors. Share that watch knowledge and bag knowledge with a new generation.

    I went to a sales conference last year where I met a woman who's whole life was changed by a mentor she met through Big Brothers, Big Sisters. She spoke highly of mentoring, even crying while doing so, because she felt she owed so much to the woman who visited her just one weekend a month for several of her most formative years. She really said she owed a lot to this woman for the success she had today.

    I couldn't easily enjoy living the way I live without doing something of substance for the world around me in some way. If you have some charitable organizations you know of that could be added to the list above, volunteering stories you'd like to share or comments, please feel free!
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    Posh, thank you for this great post, it remains something of a bug bear that I do not have the time to work with the charities I supported in my very late teens, (and refuse to throw money at problems).

    Would be great to have a similar project to mentoring.org over here, maybe a project for a free day..

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    Life was never intended to be lived horribly. Many do suffer, not because of their own fault, it just happens to be faults in our current reality...

    I remember a bible verse saying what true service to God is, it did not mention church affiliations, denominations, sects, groups, or any doctrines.. it simply stated:

    "Should I come before the LORD and bow myself before the high God? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves of a year old? Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? Shall I offer my firstborn for my faults, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God."
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    DSM, I was curious more about the European offerings for charitable service but was unsure what was best. Habitat and Red Cross are international and you can find out if anything is local to you trough both their sites.

    For those people with very little actual time, for whatever reason, donating money to expand the scope of an organizations present programs and services can still help. It may not offer the same satisfaction as getting in their with hands, heart and head but it can still just as well meaning and useful.

    Ximenes, I'm with you on that. Life wasn't meant to be lived horribly and the fact that it could be so easily improved for so many WITH SO VERY LITTLE is great. I mean, a little time and a little caring. The money will flow if money is needed, I feel. I waste a $1,000 on absolutely nothing in a month's period. I could easily donate the money to help the local food pantry (which I actually do). Very easy stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ximenes View Post
    Life was never intended to be lived horribly. Many do suffer, not because of their own fault, it just happens to be faults in our current reality...

    I remember a bible verse saying what true service to God is, it did not mention church affiliations, denominations, sects, groups, or any doctrines.. it simply stated:

    "Should I come before the LORD and bow myself before the high God? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves of a year old? Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? Shall I offer my firstborn for my faults, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God."
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    Hmmm, I'm not so sure. Is talking about what a charitable person you are not effectively boasting about how good you are? I've met many good and charitable people who would never tell you what they'd done, you only find out through other sources, as it is personal to them and something they do not want praise or recognition for.

    Me, I'm cynical about charity, particularly large multi national charitable organisations. Living in Africa for many years made me that way. More than twenty years ago Band Aid and Sir Bob of Geldorf were going to end starvation in Africa. Today the pictures coming out of Africa are the same as they were then. I've seen charities going in to a village in the bush and putting in a well with a hand pump so people can have fresh water instead of walking miles to a polluted river. Unfortunately, after the do-gooders have gone maybe the pump breaks down and there are no parts to fix it and no money for parts, or someone needs the rubber seals to fix their bicycle so the pump doesn't work any more and the people go back to carrying water from the polluted river shaking their heads at the stupidity of the people who gave them the pump. I've seen massive projects where farmers are trained, given seed and tractors. When they are left to their own devices they go back to the subsistence farming they've known all their lives, the tractors break down, or are robbed of stuff useful elsewhere, like metal to fix the roof, rubber tyres to make shoes, and so it goes. Look at Zimbabwe where viable commercial farms owned by whites were taken by the government and given to government supporters. The farmhouses are usually burnt down just for fun, and the people go back to, you guessed it, subsistence farming. Not surprising why people in Africa are starving, is it. No amount of charity will ever help not until the people themselves want it to.

    I comfort myself that because of the watches I purchase, my money will be helping to feed and house Chinese families who are prepared to work and better themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightlight View Post
    Hmmm, I'm not so sure. Is talking about what a charitable person you are not effectively boasting about how good you are? I've met many good and charitable people who would never tell you what they'd done, you only find out through other sources, as it is personal to them and something they do not want praise or recognition for.

    I comfort myself that because of the watches I purchase, my money will be helping to feed and house Chinese families who are prepared to work and better themselves.

    Brightlight, have any view you want of charity. Don't do anything if you want. Continue to buy watches if you think that's somehow doing something helpful somewhere. Or even take the money and light cigars with or use it to wipe your behind. The choice is completely yours. *shrug* I choose what I do. You choose what you do not do. Feeling that anything you do won't help anybody is the wrong attitude to have.

    If you consider it bragging, okay then . . . You should see me around town. In my daily life, I actually wear silkscreened t-shirts that say 'I AM SO CHARITABLE, PLEASE WORHSIP ME.' You won't believe how much flak I get from people behind me in the grocery store when I start telling the cashier all the money I gave to the United Way. I got thrown out of red Lobster once for a beating a server up who kept trying to grab a poor little lobster out the tank to cook. I threw biscuits at him while I yelled that he wasn't gonna find Nemo here!

    My friend tell me that my shallowness is so throrough it's almost like depth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightlight View Post
    Hmmm, I'm not so sure. Is talking about what a charitable person you are not effectively boasting about how good you are? I've met many good and charitable people who would never tell you what they'd done, you only find out through other sources, as it is personal to them and something they do not want praise or recognition for.

    Me, I'm cynical about charity, particularly large multi national charitable organisations. Living in Africa for many years made me that way. More than twenty years ago Band Aid and Sir Bob of Geldorf were going to end starvation in Africa. Today the pictures coming out of Africa are the same as they were then. I've seen charities going in to a village in the bush and putting in a well with a hand pump so people can have fresh water instead of walking miles to a polluted river. Unfortunately, after the do-gooders have gone maybe the pump breaks down and there are no parts to fix it and no money for parts, or someone needs the rubber seals to fix their bicycle so the pump doesn't work any more and the people go back to carrying water from the polluted river shaking their heads at the stupidity of the people who gave them the pump. I've seen massive projects where farmers are trained, given seed and tractors. When they are left to their own devices they go back to the subsistence farming they've known all their lives, the tractors break down, or are robbed of stuff useful elsewhere, like metal to fix the roof, rubber tyres to make shoes, and so it goes. Look at Zimbabwe where viable commercial farms owned by whites were taken by the government and given to government supporters. The farmhouses are usually burnt down just for fun, and the people go back to, you guessed it, subsistence farming. Not surprising why people in Africa are starving, is it. No amount of charity will ever help not until the people themselves want it to.

    I comfort myself that because of the watches I purchase, my money will be helping to feed and house Chinese families who are prepared to work and better themselves.
    I don't believe she was boasting, merely giving example or idea to those interested.

    By the way, how could anyone be cynical about giving?

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    I'm an atheist so I don't believe that I will be rewarded in an afterlife for my charitable acts.

    This, however, doesn't stop me from being charitable when I can afford to be. I don't think it benefits me to discuss how much and to whom I donate, because it's not a game you can keep score in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugwash View Post
    I'm an atheist so I don't believe that I will be rewarded in an afterlife for my charitable acts.

    This, however, doesn't stop me from being charitable when I can afford to be. I don't think it benefits me to discuss how much and to whom I donate, because it's not a game you can keep score in.

    The reason to give shouldn't be to be rewarded in any afterlife you may think is waiting for you but because it's simply the right thing to do. But whatever the reason ultimately is, it's just a way to make things better.

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    Great post. I prefer being an anonymous donor....whenever I do give to charity.

    Have actually been supporting a kid's education thru a charity for a long time now......just that I don't want the child to know. The charity/foundation does send updates once a year mentioning how the child is doing etc. To me.....this is immensly satifying....education is something that stays with you for life and no one can take it away.
    Thinking of adopting another child's education soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posh View Post

    Oh, Pug, the game is over. Warren Buffett won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posh View Post
    The reason to give shouldn't be to be rewarded in any afterlife you may think is waiting for you but because it's simply the right thing to do. But whatever the reason ultimately is, it's just a way to make things better.
    Agreed. Anything that improves society as a whole is a good thing. The further from the caves and closer to the stars we get, the better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Posh View Post
    Oh, Pug, the game is over. Warren Buffett won.
    That's not a reference I understand.

    [edit: looked him up, oh now I get it, yes, he won]

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    Outside of donating blood regularly, my pet charity organizations are the National Center for Family Literacy (ncfl.org) and childsplaycharity.org

    As for faith-- I reserve that for the human race, not a mythical figurehead.

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    Hey, another post with depth! Kudos, Posh. Great subjects, all

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    [QUOTE=Brightlight;359120]Hmmm, I'm not so sure. Is talking about what a charitable person you are not effectively boasting about how good you are? I've met many good and charitable people who would never tell you what they'd done, you only find out through other sources, as it is personal to them and something they do not want praise or recognition for.

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    [QUOTE=308GTS;359231]
    Quote Originally Posted by Brightlight View Post
    Hmmm, I'm not so sure. Is talking about what a charitable person you are not effectively boasting about how good you are? I've met many good and charitable people who would never tell you what they'd done, you only find out through other sources, as it is personal to them and something they do not want praise or recognition for.

    Dittos...
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    [quote=308GTS;359231]
    Quote Originally Posted by Brightlight View Post
    Hmmm, I'm not so sure. Is talking about what a charitable person you are not effectively boasting about how good you are? I've met many good and charitable people who would never tell you what they'd done, you only find out through other sources, as it is personal to them and something they do not want praise or recognition for.

    Dittos...
    Dittos?

    if it wasn't for people like the OP that bring it up from time to time, people like yourself may forget that there are others in need... I don't see any boasting here, just a conversation about helping others...

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    [QUOTE=Inferno;359301]
    Quote Originally Posted by 308GTS View Post

    Dittos?

    if it wasn't for people like the OP that bring it up from time to time, people like yourself may forget that there are others in need... I don't see any boasting here, just a conversation about helping others...
    While I don't wish to criticise, read it again. Too many I's and me's for a conversation about helping others which I feel would not have started with (and I paraphrase) this is what I and my family do, now what about you. I think I am quite capable of carrying out any charitable work I feel necessary without a reminder from Posh, and without having to tell anyone else about it. You see to me there are two kinds of people, the ones who do, and the ones who talk about it.

    And Razorphish I said I was cynical about charity, by which I mean charitable organisations, not about giving.

    Posh your sarcasm was somewhat spoiled by the fact I have no idea what a Red Lobster is. I'd make an educated guess at some sort of american seafood restaurant?
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    I don't understand how the thread title relates to the contents...

    btw.. Red Lobster?? Victoria would never.

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    While I don't wish to criticise, read it again. Too many I's and me's for a conversation about helping others which I feel would not have started with (and I paraphrase) this is what I and my family do, now what about you. I think I am quite capable of carrying out any charitable work I feel necessary without a reminder from Posh, and without having to tell anyone else about it. You see to me there are two kinds of people, the ones who do, and the ones who talk about it.

    And Razorphish I said I was cynical about charity, by which I mean charitable organisations, not about giving.

    Posh your sarcasm was somewhat spoiled by the fact I have no idea what a Red Lobster is. I'd make an educated guess at some sort of american seafood restaurant?
    How does that detract for the initial idea of getting others on board with helping out? I fail to see your point and all I can see is you trying to take this thread off course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spamh8r View Post
    Outside of donating blood regularly, my pet charity organizations are the National Center for Family Literacy (ncfl.org) and childsplaycharity.org

    As for faith-- I reserve that for the human race, not a mythical figurehead.

    Spam, I think the Literacy Council is another big one. Thanks for bringing them up! I think the people who are helped by these organizations don't care if you give money or time and do it all anonymously. They are just glad you care at all.
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    Still can't figure out what KC and the Sunshine Band has to do with charity.

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