Hi everyone,

New to the forum and I have been reading this site for days now with much interest. I have gen Seiko, Tag and Rolex DJII and I want a traditional Black Submariner but I'm tired of the high prices tags. I found RG and so far I am happy I did because there is a ton of information as well as providing information on quality rebs (to one extent or another) without being scammed.

SO, I have what appears to be the typical first question but (hopefully) with some educated points that may lead to "gen" responses....LOL.

Given the new Noob V10 that are out, is that the highest quality (all things considered) Black Submariner on the market by TD that you guys would recommend?

I have seen where ppl are getting ARF and the ZZF and I guess I have it narrowed down to the ARF or the Noob b/c the noob seems to be more recent technology and the super clone 3135 movement seems superior. I don't even know if I'm answering my own question yet but I would love some input.

Thanks