not that great and also the SEL's are pretty bad... i think I got it for about $350 back in 2017 so I guess it's considered a mid-tier rep? IIRC back in 2017 Subs with clone movements weren't that reliable and the date window was lacking that black hole effect so that's why I got the No Date but from browsing TD sites now it seems like Subs are super good and accurate now.
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