Thanks everyone for the advice. I have been talking with BK and am in the process of ordering his BK mariner. Damned paypal takes 4 days to transfer the funds, but they can validate the account in 3 mintues. LOL!!! I also have a question for you veterans......what is the deal with the 7750 movt. Major mixed reviews....most want to avoid, but some say they haven't had any problems. Any insight??