hello everyone from Canada

**peterpen** · 12-08-2022, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by vonG

welcome back

lots has changed!

but "who makes the best sub" hasn't

Thanks and that’s funny about the sub. I got a noob no date sub v7 with a 2824 back in 2017 and it’s still running, looking great and fooling people lol

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**Watch4me** · 12-08-2022, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by peterpen

Thanks and that’s funny about the sub. I got a noob no date sub v7 with a 2824 back in 2017 and it’s still running, looking great and fooling people lol

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How is the insert ?

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**peterpen** · 12-09-2022, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by Watch4me

How is the insert ?

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not that great and also the SEL's are pretty bad... i think I got it for about $350 back in 2017 so I guess it's considered a mid-tier rep? IIRC back in 2017 Subs with clone movements weren't that reliable and the date window was lacking that black hole effect so that's why I got the No Date but from browsing TD sites now it seems like Subs are super good and accurate now.

**vonG** · 12-09-2022, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by peterpen

not that great and also the SEL's are pretty bad... i think I got it for about $350 back in 2017 so I guess it's considered a mid-tier rep? IIRC back in 2017 Subs with clone movements weren't that reliable and the date window was lacking that black hole effect so that's why I got the No Date but from browsing TD sites now it seems like Subs are super good and accurate now.

and super expensive!
long gone are the days of el cheapo's that were "good nuff" from 5 feet out.