They Won't Leave in the Night: Diamonds Are ForNEVER!

[baghandler]

I was wondering how those turned out! Is version 6 too blingy? I was curious about that but wasn't sure. But I trust Betterthandiamonds judgement because all their other stuff looks great. How do you like the v6?

I hesitate to answer as I am afraid it will display my ignorance, but here was my thought when ordering the earrings: I opted for the v6 mainly due to the setting. The martini setting has the stones sit close to your ears, nearly flush. I like the extra "brightness" that the v6 offers with this setting since I think less light would get in from the sides and back of the stone (as compared to other more traditional settings that lift the stone away from the ear and allow more light to pass thru). Had I opted for a basket or scroll setting, then I probably would have stuck with the v5.

Does that make any sense whatsoever?

[SFA437]

This says it all.....

[socaligurl80]

I contacted Angelic from BTD and I am purchasing my ring soon.

I'm not getting it till thanksgiving though, can't wait to report back!

[metricsgeek]

Great Post!
I chose Moissanite 2 years ago, and am very very happy with it. Fantastic. Thanks for the clue about Asha. I will research it for the next purchase!

You are awesome, Posh. I hope you are a writer for the luxury industry, because your a great read. Thanks for adding to the RG community.

MetricsGeek

[Posh]

Great Post!
I chose Moissanite 2 years ago, and am very very happy with it. Fantastic. Thanks for the clue about Asha. I will research it for the next purchase!

You are awesome, Posh. I hope you are a writer for the luxury industry, because your a great read. Thanks for adding to the RG community.

MetricsGeek

Thank you so much, MG! I appreciate you finding some useful information in here.

But we also need to thank wealthy people for helping me help you. Without them not wanting to be like us and buying the expensive stuff that gets replicated because we want to have things like they do but still eat, we wouldn't be able to rub our super replicas in their faces. It's getting harder to tell who's rich and who's not and it vexes the hell out of them.

[socaligurl80]

I JUST placed my order with BTD

WOOT WOOT



1.5 version 6 (they did not have v5 on this) hearts and arrows round tiffany reproduction in palladium.

ok I am BEYOND extatic.

btw, did I ever mention future hubby thinks I'm getting the real thing? He would not listen when I told him I wanted a rep.



I hope he sees it and thinks it's great and he finally gets that I DONT NEED a real diamond!!!

[Posh]

I JUST placed my order with BTD

WOOT WOOT



1.5 version 6 (they did not have v5 on this) hearts and arrows round tiffany reproduction in palladium.

ok I am BEYOND extatic.

btw, did I ever mention future hubby thinks I'm getting the real thing? He would not listen when I told him I wanted a rep.



I hope he sees it and thinks it's great and he finally gets that I DONT NEED a real diamond!!!

That's great! Social responsible bling is very good thing!

Since you are saving money and making an ethical choice, why did he think you were buying a real diamond?

[TXTurbo930]

Fantastic write-up Posh thanks for taking the time to do this.

[socaligurl80]

ok so this is the story

boyfriend and I opened a bank account together some time ago.. he kept depositing into it and couple days ago he set me a budget and told me to get a nice diamond set at tiffanys with it.

I didn't dare to tell him I placed the order because I already know he disapproves of me buying rep watches and bags and he REALLY wants it to be a diamond so I placed the order at BTD last night and can't wait for him to see it..

plus the last time i even mentioned a sim he would not listen.

hopefully he will be convinced it's really good (I don't mean to fool him, just show him a sim can be just as good)

[chronoluvvv]

pretty interesting stuff about rep stones. I have watched a few specials & read some mag articles about the diamond trade so i have never been fond of them.

the betterthan website shows contact info as Issaquah WA i.e south-east of lake Sammamish ... maybe someone can go over and verify their credentials ? Heck if i have the time when i head up in December i might go over wth my cuz. Chances are he knows the place since he used to be in jewelery machining, etc

[Posh]

ok so this is the story

boyfriend and I opened a bank account together some time ago.. he kept depositing into it and couple days ago he set me a budget and told me to get a nice diamond set at tiffanys with it.

I didn't dare to tell him I placed the order because I already know he disapproves of me buying rep watches and bags and he REALLY wants it to be a diamond so I placed the order at BTD last night and can't wait for him to see it..

plus the last time i even mentioned a sim he would not listen.

hopefully he will be convinced it's really good (I don't mean to fool him, just show him a sim can be just as good)

How can your boyfriend not love the fact that you're socially and economically minded. So many women are not, especially when it comes diamonds. mart women get really stupid really quickly, even a vegan, politically active, communist friend of mine. She's Mrs. Protest-War-At -The White-House and then had a conniption when her SECOND husband to be said that he didn't want to buy her a diamond for ethical reasons. He wussed and got her the nicest blood diamond I've seen in a while. I'll being to that hypocritical wedding next year.

pretty interesting stuff about rep stones. I have watched a few specials & read some mag articles about the diamond trade so i have never been fond of them.

the betterthan website shows contact info as Issaquah WA i.e south-east of lake Sammamish ... maybe someone can go over and verify their credentials ? Heck if i have the time when i head up in December i might go over wth my cuz. Chances are he knows the place since he used to be in jewelery machining, etc

They're reputation is impeccable. They will answer any questions you have directly from their contact page or their forum, which they regularly post to. Contact them about visiting and I think they'll oblige.

[socaligurl80]

My ring is waiting for me to go pick it up in LA end of the month..

can't wait to see pics taken by my brother!!!!!

[Posh]

My ring is waiting for me to go pick it up in LA end of the month..

can't wait to see pics taken by my brother!!!!!

Are you getting it at BTD's retail location? This is going to be exciting.

Did you tell your BF the shocking truth about that "diamond?"

[TA8088]

I JUST placed my order with BTD

WOOT WOOT



1.5 version 6 (they did not have v5 on this) hearts and arrows round tiffany reproduction in palladium.

ok I am BEYOND extatic.

btw, did I ever mention future hubby thinks I'm getting the real thing? He would not listen when I told him I wanted a rep.



I hope he sees it and thinks it's great and he finally gets that I DONT NEED a real diamond!!!

Congrats! Can't wait to see some pictures of it. I'm actually giving some serious thought to buying one for my GF as well. Will probably get the setting elsewhere but am looking at a 1ct or 1.25ct from BTD. The GF would have no issues with this. To be honest she doesn't want me to spend a ton on a diamond anyway. Been there and done that with two rings before. At least I got them back to recoup a little money from them. Current GF would much rather use what we save on other things. Like maybe getting back into school.

[samurai jack]

I have seen the BTD site and read up some of the forums as well. The stones (esp. V5) look to be identical to the real thing. The concern I have is the longevity of the stone (discoloration/scratches etc.)....especially after it's been on the finger for a few months.

Any advice/tips on this?

Cheers

[TA8088]

I have seen the BTD site and read up some of the forums as well. The stones (esp. V5) look to be identical to the real thing. The concern I have is the longevity of the stone (discoloration/scratches etc.)....especially after it's been on the finger for a few months.

Any advice/tips on this?

Cheers

I think that the process they are using on the V6's will keep them from discoloring. As for scratches it looks like too much softer than diamond so I'm thinking it should resist scratches really well.

[samurai jack]

My understanding is that though V6 is slightly harder than V5 due to the coating....V5 is closest to a natural diamond.....hence the interest in V5.

[Posh]

The reason that discoloring/clouding/scratching is not a major issue with Asha is due to their use of amorphous diamond-like carbon coating that is infused into the upper layers of the substrate (the stone). This coating, which is similar to the coating used on Chopard's Mille Miglia Speed Black but higher on the DLC scale and unique to Asha, is what allows the stone to not only be scratch-resistent (in part to its now FAR lower friction coefficient) but also impermeable to water, air, dirt and dust, the very common things we come into contact with everyday that inevitably ends up clouding an ordinary cubic zirconia. There are few, if any, other companies seriously doing this with their stones because of the research involved and "extraneous" costs; most companies simply do not want to invest in improving diamond simulants because there is typically fatter margins in real stones and most companies who sell diamond simulants of any kind also sell mined diamonds; they would not want to risk killing this cash cow for anything. So many buyers simply do not care about socio-environmental impact of the mined gem industry, which still makes up the lion's share of the jewelry sector.

Although BTD does sell natural diamonds, it is not the bulk of their business like many other firms. They sell them because clients rave about their total experince with BTD to everyone (anyone!) and not all these new individuals have seen the simulant light causing these clients to lean toward mined stones. BTD would hate to send their business across the street and are just being comprehensive, for which I cannot really blame them. This mirrors the situation I mentioned above with firms who sell primarily mined diamonds but also simulants. However, the core of Betterthandiamond.com's business is in simulant, synthetic and cultured stones/pearls. I simply cannot say enough good things about Wink and his team. Buy (V5!) in total and complete confidence.

[socaligurl80]

I BEGGED my brother to take pics

he did not have a digi cam handy so took this with his blackberry

looks like crap here but I believe it will be just like a diamond in person (you try taking a pic with ur phone and see if it comes out nicely.. even a real diamond will not lol)


so.. I won't be in LA till thanksgiving

I did tell boyfriend I got a sim but he has NO idea I got it for our engagement.. I'll just let him see it when we get there LOL


ok I got it at BTD's website

it's a tiffany reproduction 1.5 carat version 6

[socaligurl80]

Congrats! Can't wait to see some pictures of it. I'm actually giving some serious thought to buying one for my GF as well. Will probably get the setting elsewhere but am looking at a 1ct or 1.25ct from BTD. The GF would have no issues with this. To be honest she doesn't want me to spend a ton on a diamond anyway. Been there and done that with two rings before. At least I got them back to recoup a little money from them. Current GF would much rather use what we save on other things. Like maybe getting back into school.

did u check the forum? it;s FULL of pics!!!

http://www.betterthandiamond.com/dis...780#Post432780

one example.. that sold me

[samurai jack]

Anyone know of a reliable place which can set the Asha stone in customized gold ring?

Cheers

[Posh]

Anyone know of a reliable place which can set the Asha stone in customized gold ring?

Cheers

Locally in Singapore or someone you can send it to who will set it? BTD's forum has several options and I know of some. Did you have a BUDGET? Wow, there's a word you don't hear everyday . . .

[socaligurl80]

I told my fiance about the ring and he was skeptical..showed him btd forum's pics and he was impressed


He still wants me to have that as a backup ring and get me his own.. but I'm still working into convincing him

btw.. I will be at grandma's on friday so i FINALLY get to see my ring!!!

[Posh]

I told my fiance about the ring and he was skeptical..showed him btd forum's pics and he was impressed


He still wants me to have that as a backup ring and get me his own.. but I'm still working into convincing him

btw.. I will be at grandma's on friday so i FINALLY get to see my ring!!!

Socal, sounds great! I'm SO excited for you!

If he doesn't come around, ask him to watch Blood Diamond, uncut. Some call it sensational and I actually feel it wasn't graphic enough; the filmmakers themselves said they held back on what they could have shown, all of it more disturbing than anything they did show. And for the naysayers who doubt the extent of atrocities committed by the gemological industry worldwide, particularly in regards to Africa and diamonds, I say be glad they didn't set the movie in 1901. THAT movie would NEVER have gotten made.

This is SO weird. Usually, it's us girls that have to be convinced to see reason, get conscientious, be economical and to stop being close-minded and/or selfish. It's rare to have to the roles reversed so strongly. I don't know whether to feel like this is breakthrough of male oppression or completely puzzled.

So I better understand, does he say why he feels that only a natural diamond is "good enough" for you or have you even asked? This requires questioning. He may have come from a background where he feels having replica, faux or simulated items says something about him or his ability to "provide." And the sale of simulants and synthetics is completely legal so the morality and ethicality angle is shot. My mom would love to pick his brain (she's a psychotherapist)! Hell, I'd like to pick his brain!

If I've posed these questions before and you told, either via PM or this thread, I'm sorry. LOL

[socaligurl80]

hahaha no no, don't worry Posh, nothing to be sorry about.

i KNOW it's weird huh? LOL

he USED to not approve of rep bags either until we had a HUGE fight about it not too long ago. He would make FUN of me saying I was the FAKE LADY cuz I bought everything fake (i have quite an authentic bag collection but got into buying fakes this year and bought a LOT of bags) I told him if he'd rather have me buy all the bags I did in the authentic version and spend all his money like water once we got married and had joint accounts.

he then agreed I was right and being a LOT more sensible haha


with diamonds.. u are right. It's him wanting to give me the "best" (but what does the best really mean?) and NOT believing sims can be really good or just as good as a nice diamond.

I showed him this pic... and he asked me over and OVER again.. which one is the one I bought cuz he could NOT believe a sim had such fire

and then i explained him.. this is not a FAKE diamond. He needs to think of this as a sparkly stone and voila, his perception about this should change.


pic credit: btd forum