Yes, SFA, that's why I said it didn't apply to you. Sadly, I think you're right about your society having gone too far. We haven't yet gone that far in the UK, thank goodness, but we are going that way, thanks to the influences we've imported. But how are we to get out of the spiral?

You're spot on too about dehumanising not working, that's got a lot to do with my feeling the way I do.