Hello!

[JMS1988]

@Brobert @nembo @wimpie007

I have a feeling this thread is not going to be pretty, so you guys might want to take a look

[Maron]

I considered using a new username and what not, but I did not.
Why? Because it was a mistake and RWI didn't take it that way.

It also has to be understood the rules of marketing here are different than RWI.
RWI is very strict about profiteering which is why my misunderstanding got blown out of proportion.

I've read the rules here and will still price my pieces lower than original value due to some issues that need fixing.

RWI really did not treat me well, between folks acting like they were six with all of the power in the world and staff members getting hasty for no good reason over a resolved issue.

I apologize because I misunderstood. I didn't realize it was a misunderstanding. I was under the impression you were banned for willfully misrepresenting a watch and pricing it a good $500 over its worth.

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[occb2]

Brother I know your kidding right. I have NEVER EVER disrespected you. I watched you unfold on RWI. I found out you were selling stolen software to people on the site. Then I was going to give you money and hold your WM9 till you could give it back. Remember? Actually today was the day that if you didn't sell it by I would give you the $1000. You already by then knew that it wasn't a WM9 16613. You were going to even screw me. So I believe you should just be band from all rep sites.

RWI treated you well. It was you, unless there is something you want to say that none of us know?

You tried to rip people off because you want to make money by fraud. Trying to charge up to $1000 for what you said was a WM9 16613. I am sorry. Its just not what you say. You screwed us as a site, family and friends.

[malevolent]

I apologize because I misunderstood. I didn't realize it was a misunderstanding. I was under the impression you were banned for willfully misrepresenting a watch and pricing it a good $500 over its worth.

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http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.ph...ighlight=16613

It was originally rather high value.

It is a BK Noob 16613 with gen insert, crystal and gasket along with the work done for that.

The amount I paid in total was over 1k to achieve that.

The conversation they posted earlier was before that work was done and again, it was a private conversation (very hostile) with someone who I used to be connected with in the rep community.
As you can tell, there's a reason I don't talk to him anymore.

[Garybronz]

http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.ph...ighlight=16613

It was originally rather high value.

It is a BK Noob 16613 with gen insert, crystal and gasket along with the work done for that.

The amount I paid in total was over 1k to achieve that.

The conversation they posted earlier was before that work was done and again, it was a private conversation (very hostile) with someone who I used to be connected with in the rep community.
As you can tell, there's a reason I don't talk to him anymore.

And that reason is that you, Malevolent, are an ASSCLOWN! Yea, I said it!

[malevolent]

Brother I know your kidding right. I have NEVER EVER disrespected you. I watched you unfold on RWI. I found out you were selling stolen software to people on the site. Then I was going to give you money and hold your WM9 till you could give it back. Remember? Actually today was the day that if you didn't sell it by I would give you the $1000. You already by then knew that it wasn't a WM9 16613. You were going to even screw me. So I believe you should just be band from all rep sites.

RWI treated you well. It was you, unless there is something you want to say that none of us know?

You tried to rip people off because you want to make money by fraud. Trying to charge up to $1000 for what you said was a WM9 16613. I am sorry. Its just not what you say. You screwed us as a site, family and friends.

What stolen software? I am literally licensed lol, I actually make quite a bit of money from that on the side, but that's a conversation for another day.

Yes and again, as I have stated over and over, once I found the value of it I decreased the price. I would have refunded anything anyone who bought it paid that was considered overpaying.
All of my other pieces ever sold on RWI were sold at a loss. This was one simple mistake that was blown out of proportion.

I was not willing to screw you, I refused to sell to you for the reason you did not need anymore reps.

RWI did not treat me well at all.

It's also a BK Noob 16613 from here: http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.ph...ighlight=16613

with the work and gen parts the value is over 1k

I screwed no one.

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And that reason is that you are an ASSCLOWN! Yea, I said it!

How so? Your having to use words like that is what truly determines a person. Clearly your attitude is rather negative and unfounded.

[QueTip]

http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.ph...ighlight=16613

It was originally rather high value.

It is a BK Noob 16613 with gen insert, crystal and gasket along with the work done for that.

The amount I paid in total was over 1k to achieve that.

The conversation they posted earlier was before that work was done and again, it was a private conversation (very hostile) with someone who I used to be connected with in the rep community.
As you can tell, there's a reason I don't talk to him anymore.

That is utter BS. You didn't buy it from heero. You bought it backdoor from the guy that bought the watch from heero.
Hero sold it for $780, any other normal guy will lower the price when reselling. So did he. To $500.

btw: don't expect to be treated any different than **** if you behave and act like ****.

[malevolent]

That is utter BS. You didn't buy it from heero. You bought it backdoor from the guy that bought the watch from heero.
Hero sold it for $780, any other normal guy will lower the price when reselling. So did he. To $500.

btw: don't expect to be treated any different than **** if you behave and act like ****.

Never said I bought it from heero, I was linking to the original piece which did have the WM9 part.
I misunderstood at the time what a WM9 was.

The value I have put it with work and parts is still over my asking price.

I could care less what I am treated like, I am used to it from those at RWI, all I ask for is some humility as no one seems to be providing it.

There's a reason all of my sales were just fine in that thread besides the 16613 and why the other pieces from the past all sold just fine.

[Garybronz]

What stolen software? I am literally licensed lol, I actually make quite a bit of money from that on the side, but that's a conversation for another day.

Yes and again, as I have stated over and over, once I found the value of it I decreased the price. I would have refunded anything anyone who bought it paid that was considered overpaying.
All of my other pieces ever sold on RWI were sold at a loss. This was one simple mistake that was blown out of proportion.

I was not willing to screw you, I refused to sell to you for the reason you did not need anymore reps.

RWI did not treat me well at all.

It's also a BK Noob 16613 from here: http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.ph...ighlight=16613

with the work and gen parts the value is over 1k

I screwed no one.

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How so? Your having to use words like that is what truly determines a person. Clearly your attitude is rather negative and unfounded.

My words and attitude are because you tried to screw me, and I don't take kindly to that. But I guess it's just the case of "your right and the rest of the world(or forum) is wrong" mentality.

[QueTip]

Never said I bought it from heero, I was linking to the original piece which did have the WM9 part.
I misunderstood at the time what a WM9 was.

The value I have put it with work and parts is still over my asking price.

I could care less what I am treated like, I am used to it from those at RWI, all I ask for is some humility as no one seems to be providing it.

There's a reason all of my sales were just fine in that thread besides the 16613 and why the other pieces from the past all sold just fine.

Please explain a $750 price raise with a gen insert and crystal? That sounds funny.
Especially asking price has to be adjusted lower from your 'ins' since the insert had a cracked pearl and the crystal was spinning.

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Oh wait, it maybe had a gen gasket

[malevolent]

I had 27 confirmed deals on RWI all with positive feedback ALL LOSING ME MONEY.

Why would I give up my reputation for one quick sale ESPECIALLY when I have so many other pieces to try and sell.

The 16613 was my mistake in terms of how I decided to market it.
Yep I ****ed up in saying it was a BK WM9 rather than a BK Noob and the price was set as a WM9.
When I figured out it was not a WM9 from the member QueTip on RWI the price was dropped to reflect the original piece plus gen parts and work I added to it along with compensating for the damage to it.

[QueTip]

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I had 27 confirmed deals on RWI all with positive feedback ALL LOSING ME MONEY.

Why would I give up my reputation for one quick sale ESPECIALLY when I have so many other pieces to try and sell.

The 16613 was my mistake in terms of how I decided to market it.
Yep I ****ed up in saying it was a BK WM9 rather than a BK Noob and the price was set as a WM9.
When I figured out it was not a WM9 from the member QueTip on RWI the price was dropped to reflect the original piece plus gen parts and work I added to it along with compensating for the damage to it.

That was before he started a personal vendetta eh?

[dilodoli]

hold on,, but if you realize you overcharge it, and you are willing to adjust the price?
why the screenshot of the chat said the opposite?

[malevolent]

My words and attitude are because you tried to screw me, and I don't take kindly to that. But I guess it's just the case of "your right and the rest of the world(or forum) is wrong" mentality.

Gary look, I am sorry you feel that I screwed you. I can't admit to it because as I told you, once I figured it out or if you did, I would have gladly refunded the price that was for the WM9 claim.

I realize you will not come to forgive me and I accept that so there's no use in further replies. If you have any specifics you can shoot me a PM or continue to call out here, I will be more than happy to provide my account of it.

[subjeff]

I'll put a positive spin on it!

You currently have the most popular thread on RG and even RWI at the moment!

You are currently the most talked about person here and there!

Keep it up and your post count will exceed mine and I have been a member for years!

[malevolent]

Please explain a $750 price raise with a gen insert and crystal? That sounds funny.
Especially asking price has to be adjusted lower from your 'ins' since the insert had a cracked pearl and the crystal was spinning.

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Oh wait, it maybe had a gen gasket

That was the WM9 thought which ended up being a mistake on my part.
A great mistake at that considering how much buzz it has caused.

Now that I have given it the full time I should have given it before (I thought a WM9 was just the hollowed out wrapped bracelet and what not, yes I know that is ignorant) I have come to realize it isn't worth nearly as much.

If anything I would like to sell the other pieces I have even if I have to keep the 16613.
I will gladly NOT sell it if it helps soothe everyone, or at this point I will drop the price more if needed (even though that makes no sense to me because that's even more lost money)

I would be glad to get people who can vouch for my paying a total of $1k+ for this watch modded to the current condition if needed.

[Garybronz]

I had 27 confirmed deals on RWI all with positive feedback ALL LOSING ME MONEY.

Why would I give up my reputation for one quick sale ESPECIALLY when I have so many other pieces to try and sell.

The 16613 was my mistake in terms of how I decided to market it.
Yep I ****ed up in saying it was a BK WM9 rather than a BK Noob and the price was set as a WM9.
When I figured out it was not a WM9 from the member QueTip on RWI the price was dropped to reflect the original piece plus gen parts and work I added to it along with compensating for the damage to it.

Says it all about this guy, he dig his own grave at RWI now he has his shovel in hand again and wants to try and dig here. I may not spend as much time here as I do at RWI but I love this site just as much and respect everyone here just as much. Go try changing your screen name here or anywhere else. As soon as you try to sell that 16613 we will all let potential buyers know about this. You might as well get real personal with that watch, your going to have it for a long long time!

[malevolent]

hold on,, but if you realize you overcharge it, and you are willing to adjust the price?
why the screenshot of the chat said the opposite?

I've been trying to explain that is a very old conversation with someone I am not fond of who kept harassing me over Facebook messages.
He was from RWi in other words yes my generalization was bull**** and yes what I said makes me an asshat. I accept that, but why would you judge a full reputation of a person based on a conversation? That sounds silly to me, especially with my history being flawless and the rest of the pieces in the thread where I tried to sell the 16613 went just fine AT MUCH LOWER than my asking prices which were again less than I paid overall.

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Says it all about this guy, he dig his own grave at RWI now he has his shovel in hand again and wants to try and dig here. I may not spend as much time here as I do at RWI but I love this site just as much and respect everyone here just as much. Go try changing your screen name here or anywhere else. As soon as you try to sell that 16613 we will all let potential buyers know about this. You might as well get real personal with that watch, your going to have it for a long long time!

I haven't changed my screen name to try and resolve the issue. That is the adult thing to do.

And hell if that watch is now banished I will keep it and sell my other watches for again lower than I paid. Totally fine keeping this piece and getting it repaired, it's a great piece.

[Garybronz]

I've been trying to explain that is a very old conversation with someone I am not fond of who kept harassing me over Facebook messages.
He was from RWi in other words yes my generalization was bull**** and yes what I said makes me an asshat. I accept that, but why would you judge a full reputation of a person based on a conversation? That sounds silly to me, especially with my history being flawless and the rest of the pieces in the thread where I tried to sell the 16613 went just fine AT MUCH LOWER than my asking prices which were again less than I paid overall.

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I haven't changed my screen name to try and resolve the issue. That is the adult thing to do.

And hell if that watch is now banished I will keep it and sell my other watches for again lower than I paid. Totally fine keeping this piece and getting it repaired, it's a great piece.

You REALLY think anyone is going to buy ANYTHING from you? If they do, shame on them because they will be warned.

[QueTip]

That was the WM9 thought which ended up being a mistake on my part.
A great mistake at that considering how much buzz it has caused.

Now that I have given it the full time I should have given it before (I thought a WM9 was just the hollowed out wrapped bracelet and what not, yes I know that is ignorant) I have come to realize it isn't worth nearly as much.

If anything I would like to sell the other pieces I have even if I have to keep the 16613.
I will gladly NOT sell it if it helps soothe everyone, or at this point I will drop the price more if needed (even though that makes no sense to me because that's even more lost money)

I would be glad to get people who can vouch for my paying a total of $1k+ for this watch modded to the current condition if needed.

Who should vouch for that? QueTip gave you a more than kind estimate of the worth of yours.
It's probably even lower now since it has came out it's a noob and not a MBW.

$500 - Watch
$150 - Insert
$100 - Crystal

Those are really HIGH estimates. You can get tritium inserts as yours and non LEC as also yours for a LOT less than that price. (~$50 for each)

That puts it at $100 ontop of the $500 invested in the base watch. Now add watchsmith work to install a gen insert and crystal. Case doesn't seem to be gen spec since it's a noob but even that is not that much of work that it can be thrown up to what I have estimated the watch in the first place if it was MBW.

[malevolent]

You REALLY think anyone is going to buy ANYTHING from you? If they do, shame on them because they will be warned.

My pieces can all be proven in terms of where they were purchased, for how much, etc.

I am more than happy to provide any information needed to sell the pieces at a lower value if need be.

Again, this is one trip up out of 30+ deals regarding other watches.

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Who should vouch for that? QueTip gave you a more than kind estimate of the worth of yours.
It's probably even lower now since it has came out it's a noob and not a MBW.

$500 - Watch
$150 - Insert
$100 - Crystal

Those are really HIGH estimates. You can get tritium inserts as yours and non LEC as also yours for a LOT less than that price. (~$50 for each)

That puts it at $100 ontop of the $500 invested in the base watch. Now add watchsmith work to install a gen insert and crystal. Case doesn't seem to be gen spec since it's a noob but even that is not that much of work that it can be thrown up to what I have estimated the watch in the first place if it was MBW.

I have the original transactions if proof is needed for the pricing.

[QueTip]

My pieces can all be proven in terms of where they were purchased, for how much, etc.

I am more than happy to provide any information needed to sell the pieces at a lower value if need be.

Again, this is one trip up out of 30+ deals regarding other watches.

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I have the original transactions if proof is needed for the pricing.

Lol, you don't need to show that. There is not more to be paid for those parts than what I've listed them as. That is a really high estimate as I've already said.

[dilodoli]

Alright, i assume the "someone" that you talking with can look into the future and knew you will sell the $500 watch with 1k price tag. awesome..

I've been trying to explain that is a very old conversation with someone I am not fond of who kept harassing me over Facebook messages.
He was from RWi in other words yes my generalization was bull**** and yes what I said makes me an asshat. I accept that, but why would you judge a full reputation of a person based on a conversation? That sounds silly to me, especially with my history being flawless and the rest of the pieces in the thread where I tried to sell the 16613 went just fine AT MUCH LOWER than my asking prices which were again less than I paid overall.

[Garybronz]

My pieces can all be proven in terms of where they were purchased, for how much, etc.

I am more than happy to provide any information needed to sell the pieces at a lower value if need be.

Again, this is one trip up out of 30+ deals regarding other watches.

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I have the original transactions if proof is needed for the pricing.

Yea but you intentionally didn't list your original transaction on the WM9 16613 because IT WASNT A WM9, you NEVER BOUGHT IT THINKING IT WAS A WM9, you tried to sell it to me AS A WM9 for TWELVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS!!!! And I almost bought it!! Thanks to some friends that I pm'd pics of it telling me it was not, I would have bought it.

[malevolent]

Lol, you don't need to show that. There is not more to be paid for those parts than what I've listed them as. That is a really high estimate as I've already said.

Your evaluations are extremely close. Now add the work and shipping back and forth for all of the work.
Installs aren't free when you send them off to be installed, etc.

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[QUOTE=dilodoli;2769339]Alright, i assume the "someone" that you talking with can look into the future and knew you will sell the $500 watch with 1k price tag. awesome..

I've been trying to explain that is a very old conversation with someone I am not fond of who kept harassing me over Facebook messages.
He was from RWi in other words yes my generalization was bull**** and yes what I said makes me an asshat. I accept that, but why would you judge a full reputation of a person based on a conversation? That sounds silly to me, especially with my history being flawless and the rest of the pieces in the thread where I tried to sell the 16613 went just fine AT MUCH LOWER than my asking prices which were again less than I paid overall.

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It's not a $500 watch, it was before and then it was modded.

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Yea but you intentionally didn't list your original transaction on the WM9 16613 because IT WASNT A WM9, you NEVER BOUGHT IT THINKING IT WAS A WM9, you tried to sell it to me AS A WM9 for TWELVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS!!!!

I did think it was because I saw WM9 in the title and every WM9 I saw on the forums seemed to make a mention of the links being wrapped, etc.

My misunderstanding did cause this mess and I wish I would have looked into it a hell of a lot more, but it's too late.