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Johng1122 Reps or Gens - Reasoning 01-27-2019, 07:59 PM
DaleM No. 2 close thread 01-27-2019, 08:29 PM
Johng1122 ? 01-27-2019, 08:38 PM
Johng1122 Exactly, don't get me wrong... 01-27-2019, 09:26 PM
Chegespresso For real, Everyone needs... 01-27-2019, 10:39 PM
Johng1122 Intertesting I'll have to... 01-28-2019, 12:04 AM
Flattop LOL!!! Yes, people think... 01-29-2019, 07:06 PM
breitlingwatch People with way more money... 01-29-2019, 06:25 PM
Johng1122 Very true lol. But,... 01-29-2019, 07:03 PM
daytonadragon I have never seen a rep... 01-29-2019, 07:36 PM
breitlingwatch I can't tell if youre joking... 01-29-2019, 07:48 PM
daytonadragon I interpreted your post to... 01-29-2019, 08:15 PM
breitlingwatch There is actually a huge rep... 01-29-2019, 08:43 PM
movingshadow and there are a few ferrari... 01-30-2019, 11:14 AM
Johng1122 This is great! It looks like... 01-30-2019, 07:16 AM
daytonadragon That indeed looks like a rep... 01-30-2019, 07:50 PM
breitlingwatch they can get pretty good... 01-30-2019, 08:14 PM
JMS1988 As impressive as it is, it's... 01-30-2019, 09:14 PM
breitlingwatch Im all for rep watches but I... 01-30-2019, 09:22 PM
JMS1988 Only cars that make sense in... 01-30-2019, 09:40 PM
breitlingwatch I probably would too but you... 01-30-2019, 11:15 PM
JMS1988 While Veyron and Chiron... 01-31-2019, 12:44 AM
breitlingwatch Ive followed that car for a... 01-31-2019, 01:57 AM
movingshadow HA! I was just gonna say... 01-31-2019, 01:45 PM
JMS1988 Cars like this are a dream... 01-31-2019, 02:05 PM
Johng1122 Lol a posers dream haha 01-31-2019, 01:13 AM
JMS1988 Well, i said i would want one... 01-31-2019, 01:46 AM
Johng1122 No judgement here. To each... 01-31-2019, 02:02 AM
Cinque Exactly how I feel about... 02-04-2019, 06:00 AM
JMS1988 None i know of,... 02-04-2019, 01:06 PM
breitlingwatch id really like to see a DD40... 02-04-2019, 04:39 PM
JMS1988 I consider the 36mm Day-Date... 02-04-2019, 04:45 PM
Bmw760 Is that a WBK Ferrari ? 01-31-2019, 02:11 PM
kingair I think about this here and... 01-31-2019, 02:21 AM
Johng1122 I agree. One or two gens I... 01-31-2019, 05:30 AM
Darkwatch You´ll end up spending the... 01-31-2019, 07:13 AM
Johng1122 I guess this became a luxury... 02-02-2019, 10:51 PM
JMS1988 Now there, we're talking gen... 02-02-2019, 11:56 PM
daytonadragon Is is a much a better topic... 02-03-2019, 12:29 AM
breitlingwatch I don't know what's worse.... 02-03-2019, 01:15 AM
JMS1988 Well, there are several... 02-03-2019, 01:31 AM
breitlingwatch Any reviews comparing the BP... 02-04-2019, 05:00 AM
Johng1122 Glad I could help then lol... 02-03-2019, 02:18 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS1988 View Post
    As impressive as it is, it's completely senseless cost-wise. You'd have to budget $10k for a half-decent R230 Benz, then $22k for the external conversion kit, then $7.5k for the interior conversion which is necessary since it's a convertible and then spend even more actually putting it all together, plus the upkeep costs on the SL which, between the hydraulic ABC suspension and the extremely complicated SBC brakes (which BTW can be found on the hypercar SLR and the original W240 Maybach as well) won't be anywhere close to budget-friendly. You'd be looking at around $45.000 for the finished product. That's half the price of a genuine California and dangerously close to the price of a 360 Modena, for example.
    Im all for rep watches but I would NEVER even consider a rep car. That is a whole different ballgame. I don't care if you budget 100k for it, you will never get close. If you want to go the route of rep car, id say get a smashed car from copart and start a little rebuild project. You'll learn a ton and in the end have the real deal if done right

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    Quote Originally Posted by breitlingwatch View Post
    Im all for rep watches but I would NEVER even consider a rep car. That is a whole different ballgame. I don't care if you budget 100k for it, you will never get close. If you want to go the route of rep car, id say get a smashed car from copart and start a little rebuild project. You'll learn a ton and in the end have the real deal if done right
    Only cars that make sense in rep form are modern copies of vintage classics. Classics that are both rare and extremely valuable, i might add. Replicas of modern cars don't make sense for the most part. You can't get close and they get very expensive very fast. It's completely pointless when a genuine version can be had for not that much more.
    I'd say replicas of things like Bugatti Chiron would make more sense, simply because you can't get a gen for less than $3M. If there would be a visually identical $100k replica of a Chiron with performance comparable to other $100k supercars, it would be a poser's dream. Hell, i'd want one myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS1988 View Post
    Only cars that make sense in rep form are modern copies of vintage classics. Classics that are both rare and extremely valuable, i might add. Replicas of modern cars don't make sense for the most part. You can't get close and they get very expensive very fast. It's completely pointless when a genuine version can be had for not that much more.
    I'd say replicas of things like Bugatti Chiron would make more sense, simply because you can't get a gen for less than $3M. If there would be a visually identical $100k replica of a Chiron with performance comparable to other $100k supercars, it would be a poser's dream. Hell, i'd want one myself.
    I probably would too but you buy a Bugatti for the 250mph+ capabilities, not so much for just the look. And the interior would never come close. VW actually loses money making them

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    Quote Originally Posted by breitlingwatch View Post
    I probably would too but you buy a Bugatti for the 250mph+ capabilities, not so much for just the look. And the interior would never come close. VW actually loses money making them
    While Veyron and Chiron indeed have eye-watering performance, i can't help but notice that most of these cars are driven at cruise speeds between the Ritz, the yacht club and the cafe... on the thin, cobblestone streets of Monaco and Paris. I don't think a whole lot of the owners take them to Nürburgring for a few laps. That being said it's nice to know that you can.

    As far as the interior goes, i don't think it's impracticable to make a very close copy. Naturally, the higher the R&D cost put into a replica like this the more close you'd get. However the practice shows that my wish is bordering on pipe dream. The kit car business never picked up like the rep clothes/accessories business and it probably never will. There have been several lawsuits filed against some of the more recognizable manufacturers of replica car kits, you can't make it in an abandonded warehouse in China like watches...

    Since we're talking cheap Bugattis, a 2008 Veyron with a salvage title sold for $277k in 2014. I don't normally consider a quarter-million dollar car with some expensive damage a great deal but in this case, check for yourself

    Wrecked Bugatti Veyron Sells At Auction For $277k

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS1988 View Post
    While Veyron and Chiron indeed have eye-watering performance, i can't help but notice that most of these cars are driven at cruise speeds between the Ritz, the yacht club and the cafe... on the thin, cobblestone streets of Monaco and Paris. I don't think a whole lot of the owners take them to Nürburgring for a few laps. That being said it's nice to know that you can.

    As far as the interior goes, i don't think it's impracticable to make a very close copy. Naturally, the higher the R&D cost put into a replica like this the more close you'd get. However the practice shows that my wish is bordering on pipe dream. The kit car business never picked up like the rep clothes/accessories business and it probably never will. There have been several lawsuits filed against some of the more recognizable manufacturers of replica car kits, you can't make it in an abandonded warehouse in China like watches...

    Since we're talking cheap Bugattis, a 2008 Veyron with a salvage title sold for $277k in 2014. I don't normally consider a quarter-million dollar car with some expensive damage a great deal but in this case, check for yourself

    Wrecked Bugatti Veyron Sells At Auction For $277k
    Ive followed that car for a while.They don't come around often obviously. Estimate cost to repair is astronomical though. Its a gamble. It may work or it may not.

    Heres a good video on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by breitlingwatch View Post
    Ive followed that car for a while.They don't come around often obviously. Estimate cost to repair is astronomical though. Its a gamble. It may work or it may not.

    Heres a good video on it

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    HA! I was just gonna say "VINWiki has an interesting video on that"
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    Quote Originally Posted by breitlingwatch View Post
    Ive followed that car for a while.They don't come around often obviously. Estimate cost to repair is astronomical though. Its a gamble. It may work or it may not.

    Heres a good video on it

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    Cars like this are a dream candidate for a high-profile project of some YouTuber. Ad money and partnership money would basically go through the roof. Everybody would want to see a Veyron getting resuscitated. It's kind of a holy grail for motoring enthusiasts, some normal-ish guy wrenching by himself on a Veyron would mean more views than one could imagine.

    Maybe Tavarish will buy a Veyron as his next project. He did very well on the twin turbo Lamborghini Gallardo, contrary to what VINwiki predicted at some point if i'm not mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS1988 View Post
    Cars like this are a dream candidate for a high-profile project of some YouTuber. Ad money and partnership money would basically go through the roof. Everybody would want to see a Veyron getting resuscitated. It's kind of a holy grail for motoring enthusiasts, some normal-ish guy wrenching by himself on a Veyron would mean more views than one could imagine.

    Maybe Tavarish will buy a Veyron as his next project. He did very well on the twin turbo Lamborghini Gallardo, contrary to what VINwiki predicted at some point if i'm not mistaken.
    This is true. An average Joe transforming a 3 million dollar car or whatever they go for. Anyone into motors would probably take a look. I'm gonna order the parts now. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS1988 View Post
    Only cars that make sense in rep form are modern copies of vintage classics. Classics that are both rare and extremely valuable, i might add. Replicas of modern cars don't make sense for the most part. You can't get close and they get very expensive very fast. It's completely pointless when a genuine version can be had for not that much more.
    I'd say replicas of things like Bugatti Chiron would make more sense, simply because you can't get a gen for less than $3M. If there would be a visually identical $100k replica of a Chiron with performance comparable to other $100k supercars, it would be a poser's dream. Hell, i'd want one myself.
    Lol a posers dream haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johng1122 View Post
    Lol a posers dream haha
    Well, i said i would want one myself. We're on a replica forum. Talking about posers here is a bit like talking about junkies on Bluelight.org or racists on Chimpout.com.

    The latter is fortunately closed, so don't ya'll complain about mentioning a notoriously racist and mindlessly hateful community chimpout was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS1988 View Post
    Well, i said i would want one myself. We're on a replica forum. Talking about posers here is a bit like talking about junkies on Bluelight.org or racists on Chimpout.com.

    The latter is fortunately closed, so don't ya'll complain about mentioning a notoriously racist and mindlessly hateful community chimpout was.
    No judgement here. To each their own they say. Lol and I have never even heard of either but I see the point.

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