Wideguy I totally understand your viewpoint, I feel much the same way about guns for much the same sorts of reason.

However, I don't think there is any harm in discussing such things as long as people don't get personal. Don't forget there is nothing forcing anyone into reading such a thread. We all have differing viewpoints and it is interesting to hear and try to understand the viewpoints of others. And despite the strong views held on this subject I think all sides have been careful not to make it personal and unpleasant, which is a nice characteristic of Repgeek, and a great credit to J-C and the mods who step in if any of us get out of line.