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    With all due respect to you and your belief system, any argument can very well be made about anything under the sun. However, the Hebrew is very clear and straightforward. I'm not religious, not Christian, and couldn't care less either way, but it would be sophistry to bend the meanings to fit your beliefs.

    Re the definition of a bad person, your words, not mine. I never said that intention is the "only" thing that makes a person "bad" in my view. We will agree to disagree on the intention vs. deed issue. Some very bad, unethical people donate money to charities for the sole purpose of taking a tax writeoff. Was the donation made with good intentions? Certainly not. It was made for personal gain. Only my opinion, of course, but I think intentions weigh heavier than deeds. Is a hangman who enjoys inflicting fatal wounds on his victims a good man? Would you let this man babysit your children?



    Quote Originally Posted by painm8ker View Post
    Kollektor,

    I think the argument can be made about how to interpret the ancient Hebrew meaning of Kill vs. Murder, but in a subsequent clarification Jesus showed up and started the whole turn the other cheek thing. Then he showed us what he meant, just in case there was any question by dieing without resistance. He even chastised Peter for trying to defend him by cutting off that servant guys ear. Pretty much all the 12 met the same end. So if your a christian you don't have a religious argument to stand on. Your only hope is to repent on your death bed if your a christian soldier. Its not relative or based on circumstances if you kill someone you committed a sin, accept it, repent, pray for forgiveness.

    God was also pretty clear about it being OK for him to kill and not for us "Vengance is Mine."

    This is another one of the things that those of us who have chosen to serve in spite of our faith have to live with.

    I do agree not all those who serve are sociopaths, some just accept that risking their immortal souls for the greater good is an acceptable risk. Some are sociopaths though, can you guess which I am?

    I am not sure I buy into your point about someone being bad only if they enjoy killing, in the end we are not judged by what we think or what we feel, we are and should be judged by what we do. There is an old saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."

    Theology, metaphysics and ethics on rep watch board who would have thought!

    Thanks for getting us all thinking Posh!
    Last edited by Kollektor; 10-16-2008 at 01:05 AM.

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