Creation of "Sales section helpers"

[txcollector]

Seeing something that is not close to genuine specifications, such as an E caseback on a F model Panerai, isn't a "I think the seller is a scammer" type of post or PM a member should consider. Not every replica listed for sale is going to be a $1,500 replica, and therefore, the shortcomings of a watch should not be discussed, unless the seller advertises it as being "perfect".

That's a gray area that I'd like some clarification (maybe a few use cases on the guidelines)

If somebody lists an ultimate and you notice the caseback, case, CG, etc. are not ultimate do you call it?

Or if they are selling a $200 rep and asking $350 with clever marketing?

Or when somebody asks a question about lume, or movement and the seller is evasive or untruthful with the answer?

[Drhulee]

That's a gray area that I'd like some clarification (maybe a few use cases on the guidelines)

If somebody lists an ultimate and you notice the caseback, case, CG, etc. are not ultimate do you call it?

Or if they are selling a $200 rep and asking $350 with clever marketing?

Or when somebody asks a question about lume, or movement and the seller is evasive or untruthful with the answer?

Exactly, they're still scamming just at a different level, and probably justifying it to themselves in their own mind. When someone starts to say "well the buyer should have known", that is a sure sign of someone more than willing to try to pull something over and the trying to make it seem a "small thing" or maybe laugh about it. Someone like this may eventually try to pull off a much bigger scam, and won't care if you're his brother, mother or grand mother.

And the above described "helpers" will help sort out the ones who've simply made a mistake from the ones trying to pull something on an unsuspecting member.

[Sbrubb]

That's a gray area that I'd like some clarification (maybe a few use cases on the guidelines)

If somebody lists an ultimate and you notice the caseback, case, CG, etc. are not ultimate do you call it?

Or if they are selling a $200 rep and asking $350 with clever marketing?

Or when somebody asks a question about lume, or movement and the seller is evasive or untruthful with the answer?

"Ultimate" means very little. Various dealers call various watches various adjectives.

I do think there us a huge proliferation of calling something an Eddie Lee version of a watch when it like wasn't any different than the cartel. (on some models) Hard to prove though.

Fully modded is clearly a buzz phrase that gets thrown out too much.

[louisruby]

That's a gray area that I'd like some clarification (maybe a few use cases on the guidelines)

If somebody lists an ultimate and you notice the caseback, case, CG, etc. are not ultimate do you call it?

Or if they are selling a $200 rep and asking $350 with clever marketing?

Or when somebody asks a question about lume, or movement and the seller is evasive or untruthful with the answer?

1. yep, but be polite and explain why - they might not know themselves

2. as above, or kindly ask for clarification

3. evasive is dodgy - report to us. untruthful is a potential scammer -report to us. As said above, they may not know themselves. if something is an obvious outright lie, call them out (still be polite) and report it, we will nuke the thread if that's the case - you'll notice a bit of that lately....

If you hit the Report Post button (the exclamation mark under their avatar section) all mods get an email - someone will be onto it pretty quickly (i hope...lol)