Money For Nothing: Do we want too much?

[Posh]

True, a bit harsh.

You can get a bigger discount if you raise smart kids, and force them to get financial aid/scholarships/student loans.
... student loans sounds harsh.. but.. knowing they have something at stake.. well.. might motivate them not to... slack off.

I swear, out of all the people i know who dropped out, I swear 90% of them were 'mommy and daddy paid for 100% of my schooling, this is great, its like a vacation'...



My $0.02 on oberlin... nice school... but... FFS, its in the middle of Lorain County Ohio..

what? havnt heard of it? well.. lets see... i think theres some cows..

hrm.. a bit too far west for the amish in ohio.. but.. um... maybe a gas station..


um.. very flat...

see where I'm going with this?

I addressed this. I didn't slack off because my mom and dad paid for all our schooling; that's wasting money and my mother's favorite saying is never throw good money after bad. They ingrained the value of education in us when we were VERY young.

And most great schools are in weird areas. My uncle went to Grinnell College and that's in Bumf*ck, Iowa. But it's a fantastic school that I actually was going to go to until I changed my mind about my major.

YOU can make your kids take out loans to pay for their school. MY kids never will. I will pay for their education until they say they are done with being educated. Simple as that. They will not start life off in debt.

What's at stake for them is my love, approval and respect. I own you. Don't defy me.

NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!!!!!!!

[roflwaffle]

I addressed this. I didn't slack off because my mom and dad paid for all our schooling; that's wasting money and my mother's favorite saying is never throw good money after bad. They ingrained the value of education in us when we were VERY young.

And most great schools are in weird areas. My uncle went to Grinnell College and that's in Bumf*ck, Iowa. But it's a fantastic school that I actually was going to go to until I changed my mind about my major.

YOU can make your kids take out loans to pay for their school. MY kids never will. I will pay for their education until they say they are done with being educated. Simple as that. They will not start life off in debt.

What's at stake for them is my love, approval and respect. I own you. Don't defy me.

NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!!!!!!!

I think you missed the point..

you had commented on sending them there 'for the discount'

which you may have been midly joking about.. just pointing out if money was a concern, there are better options...

yes, its a good school, and good that you understand it is in the middle of BFE, but if little johnny wants to be a doctor or engineer, or whatever oberlin is *not* known for, forcing him to go to oberlin is kinda silly.

And I wasnt commenting on *me*, I havnt stated what I plan for my progeny..

and, i just have to poke a bit more

'they wont start their life out in debt'

oh, but i disagree... they will be indebted... to you rather than a bank..

and emotionally rather than financially..


I would say that most great schools are usually in rather good locations... (ivy league, 7 sisters, johns hopkins, MIT, CMU, etc etc) at least... not in the middle of nowhere ohio (which is only slightly better than nowhere iowa)...

guess it all depends on how you rank a school...




whats with the no more wire hangers?

[Posh]

whats with the no more wire hangers?

You don't know where this is from? Even if you never saw that movie, you know this quote. Anyway, they can be indebted to me but I don't think I'll ever call in the loan. Loving your kids is loving your kids.

And yes, I was joking about the discount. You know, unlike the real Mrs. Beckham, I have not Botoxed the sense of humor right out of me.

[josevancouver]

I had to agree with much of what was written below. I went to a private boy's school for 12 years, hold 2 undergraduate degrees from the University of British Columbia, and have graduated from Executive programs from Simon Fraser University (Business) and the University of Michigan (Human Resources). I've got a great corporate job with quite a bit of responsibility and even have the corner office with the view I mistakenly thought was so important years ago.

I also worked a lot as a kid (delivering newspapers, work in small restaurants), worked as a waiter when I was in university, got some help from my parents but had to borrow some cash for my second undergrad degree. I've met a lot of kids who didn't pay a dime for their education, didn't work at all when they went through school and many of them either got booted out of school for crappy grades and non-attendance (after all, mommy and daddy were paying).

As I've gotten older, and hired and managed a lot of people, I have to say that the best people I've either hired or worked with are the people who never had it too easy, had to work hard for what they got, and had character. I've also realized over the years what's important and value people I work with who have strong personal values - teamwork, innovation, determination - regardless of what school they went to or whatever.

But hey, that's just me.

I think you missed the point..

you had commented on sending them there 'for the discount'

which you may have been midly joking about.. just pointing out if money was a concern, there are better options...



'they wont start their life out in debt'

oh, but i disagree... they will be indebted... to you rather than a bank..

and emotionally rather than financially..


I would say that most great schools are usually in rather good locations... (ivy league, 7 sisters, johns hopkins, MIT, CMU, etc etc) at least... not in the middle of nowhere ohio (which is only slightly better than nowhere iowa)...

guess it all depends on how you rank a school...




whats with the no more wire hangers?

[Posh]

When did having a hard life become an indicator of a person's character being wholly good or their ability to work hard?

I have met a few a-holes with hard lives that are still making everyone them pay for it in some shape, form or fashion.

Let's just say that there are productive, gorgeous people who had it all and people who kick kittens who had it all. And there are people who had bad upbringings who are saints and people who bad beginnings and make the world an unsafe place. Can we agree on that?

[josevancouver]

Of course we can. I was only commenting on ROFL's remarks.

When did having a hard life become an indicator of a person's character being wholly good or their ability to work hard?Can we agree on that?

[quizvan]

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[josevancouver]

I have a lot of admiration for people who started with little -- dysfunctional families, underprivileged socioeconomic status -- who yet managed to make meaningful and productive lives for themselves and their families. I also have a lot of admiration for privileged people who haven't lost touch with the important things in life -- good character, good family, good friends, good works, good community -- and, yes, there are a lot of people like that around.

Couldn't agree with you more Quizvan.

[quizvan]

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