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    Quote Originally Posted by Posh View Post
    Pug, taking them down the road of government contractor sounds pretty good actually. Would it solve problems long-term or only temporarily?]
    That would depend on the quality of work they did.

    If they kept doing what they're doing, it would be a short-term fix and then you're back to where you are today.

    Face it, if they made decent cars, they'd not be in trouble.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugwash View Post
    That would depend on the quality of work they did.

    If they kept doing what they're doing, it would be a short-term fix and then you're back to where you are today.

    Face it, if they made decent cars, they'd not be in trouble.


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    What exactly is wrong with their cars? Which cars do you feel are 'indecent?' There seems to be a stigma attached to them that is entirely based on their product which is the best its ever been, eclipsing many import products in certain categories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posh View Post
    What exactly is wrong with their cars? Which cars do you feel are 'indecent?' There seems to be a stigma attached to them that is entirely based on their product which is the best its ever been, eclipsing many import products in certain categories.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
    If they're selling so well, why are they in trouble?

    What's wrong with their cars is that they don't sell.

    Why they don't sell is a matter left to experts, but the fact they don't sell, in spite of some of the best brand awareness in the world and some dead easy marketing, is the important bit.

    No matter how much you defend the quality of car they build, they are proven to either suck or be perceived to suck. There's no way around it.

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    Wow, for once I actually agree with you Posh. The downfall of one of the big three would have a devastating ripple affect throughout the whole country and around the globe. It will also be much more perceptible than anything that's hit so far... where I live things are exactly the same as they were six months ago, we haven't felt the stock market craziness one bit... GM, Ford, Chryslerberus go under, there's about 200 of the best paying jobs in the area gone.

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    Theirs nothing wrong with the cars the big three make.Quality as good as any, class for class.They just haven't been managed properly for today's world. Little, or no visible effort to build more efficent vehicles.
    It's going to take a group effort to get them back running strong again.
    Probably need some sort of goverment package.
    File bankruptcy re-organization to buy time and re-tool for more efficent manufacturing, and more efficent cars. The big 3 are building decent cars, but nothing to seperate them from Asian auto's.
    Unions need to come off some of that 58.00 an hour wage. The U.S. based Asian plants that are non-union pay 28 to 38 bucks an hour. The big 3's cost structure is a problem.

    Just bad management.

    If the government is going to throw money at failing company's, I would rather it go to the auto makers than AIG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple-d View Post
    Unions need to come off some of that 58.00 an hour wage. The U.S. based Asian plants that are non-union pay 28 to 38 bucks an hour. The big 3's cost structure is a problem.

    Just bad management.
    Agreed.

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    Starting to give money to the big three is a big mistake,it will be a money pit,they are not profitable now and they won't be in ten years,the Gov will have sink money non stop,it will never end.

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