Endless Love: Marriage dead? Why?

[rickifatboy]

...you either live in the 1950's or you don't Posh,...

Sheeeesh!

I knew they were BIG watches, but people actually live in these things???

Cheers, RICK

[Posh]

I want to thank each and every person on this thread who did not attack each other, at least in the traditional sense. I appreciate that so much. I want to have discussions like this, if possible, without it deteriorating into an all out war. You guys and girls have been phenomenal! Give yourselves a hand. I just got home from a presidential debate party but I read all the replies and want to address some.

why cant anyone spell GOD ???

Answered by Keine so moving on . . .

I've been with Mrs Pugwash for almost 16 years. We're still not married. There's simply no longer any reason for it.

That's cool. I respect that but can I speak to Mrs. Pugwash for a second? Go get her and bring her to the computer. You there, Mrs. Pugwash? Okay, good. YOU WON'T GET ANY ALIMONY! Alimony ensures that a man (or woman) continues to make the payments even if he decides to get a newer model. That is all. LOL

I poked around the No Marriage site and want to believe the author feels that "Marriage is the cornerstone of society and should be treated with reverence."

Although perhaps he may have some of the same problems he identifies in women... i.e. unrealistic expectations, bitter, angry, extreme emotional and mental problems, unpredictable behaviour, difficult to be around and just have a plain old good time with, difficult to please, moods that vacillate constantly.... etc. lol

The number of people out there with issues is astounding. My mother sees half of them in private practice. But some issues, scenarios and relationships can be fixed or avoided with good old-fashioned common sense. Love may be blind but it shouldn't too.

But of course. Don't you see the $100k Breguet in my sig? What, you think that's a FAKE?!?

Are you gorgeous?

Yeah, Diablo, you know it! People say my face is timeless because it can stop clock.

Marriage just a piece of paper? No value to the promise behind it? No meaning or significance? I hear that way too often. Dumb. I guess man is just bone and sinew. Blood and guts. No value, no different than a cow. Lets all reduce things to their most simple level, that way we can honor or dispose of them according to our whims.

I totally agree with this. There seems to be a push to reduce everything to irrelevance in the world. Nothing matters. No commitments. Nothing. Do as you please. I don't want to live in a world or society where everything is okay.

@Posh - comforting to know that Italians and Jews can get along so well....

They can if one of them is Catholic.

Active, thought provolking threads should not be shut... it's the quick untempered responses of individuals that need to be checked... that makes each one of us our own moderator... which, unfortunately, is not always how it is. ~Xim

I'm glad you feel that. We are all adults, or should be anyway.

there are plenty of people in this world you could be *just* as happy with. You are not a unique and special snowflake, or if you are, theres another snowflake out there that is similiar enough, maybe in different ways.

I agree with this. But if you're married, shouldn't you stop dating? Or you into that polyamory stufff?

I often wonder how guys who find it impossible to have just one watch, manage to have just one woman. Maybe it's compensatory

HEE-LARIOUS!

For guys - 5 Rules for a perfect relationship:

1. It's important to have a woman who helps at home, cooks, cleans & has a job.

2. Its important to have a woman who can make you laugh.

3. Its important to have a woman who you can trust and doesn't lie.

4. Its important to have a woman who is good in bed and likes being with you.

5. Its very, very, very important that these four women don't know each other.

/humour

What do you expect Posh?...your attitude working against you,and women.....

Been with my 'wife' for 14 years,according to my tax return,i'm married....good enough.

What the church or whatever thinks,who cares?....you either live in the 1950's or you don't Posh,make up your mind,most of your threads say that you don't,then these one's come up.

That's just it, Dave. Like you, I am a multi-faceted person with a lot of depth and substance, not sound boastful, just a statement of how I view myself. I am a modern woman with modern ideas but I am also very conservative and have very traditional views on marriage, family and children.

I cling to and support a lot of early feminist ideas but realize that some current feminist modes of thinking actually hurt the advancement of women. I will fight just as hard for a woman who wants to stay at home with her children as I will for a woman who wants to be a professional and shatter glass ceiling. It's a choice for each of them. I respect that as long as I can have my choice when it's my time too. For example, when the time comes, I'm going to be a stay-at-home mom, like my mom was when my sister and I were young. I recall those days vividly and want my children to have those same type of memories. Until then, I'm going to work.

I can talk business in a boardroom full of professionals. I can cook a five course meal for eight people in three and a half hours. I can play the piano. I can also change the oil in my car and flat tire (my father FORCED me to learn to do this because he said today's man wouldn't stop and help a chick out).

Every Superwoman deserves a Superman.

Sheeeesh!

I knew they were BIG watches, but people actually live in these things???

Cheers, RICK

I know they can be used in pinch as a spare.

[roflwaffle]

That's cool. I respect that but can I speak to Mrs. Pugwash for a second? Go get her and bring her to the computer. You there, Mrs. Pugwash? Okay, good. YOU WON'T GET ANY ALIMONY! Alimony ensures that a man (or woman) continues to make the payments even if he decides to get a newer model. That is all. LOL

hrm.. alimony makes me sad.. its a step in the wrong direction.. and any couples who need crap like that.. starting on a bad foot imo. and even without alimony, women are statistically very likely to still get a good freaking chunk through divorce filings... planning out your divorce before you are even married just sounds horrible to me.

I agree with this. But if you're married, shouldn't you stop dating? Or you into that polyamory stufff?

now, i never said that said person was actively out looking... at all.

I just said that many people get married because they think they found 'the one' as 'obviously' someone you get along with great.. must be the only person in the world for you...

then finding out later that it is not the case..

completely excluding the actual presence of a third party.. just that there *is* someone else out there for that person.. somewhere.

so while marriage is a grand thing.. if you are miserable.. and cant work it out... there are people out there tht can make you just as happy.

i dont hope that for myself, but of course i am not one of those people that would get married after only 6 mo of knowing someone... as at least one of my friends has...

we see that a lot more these days... 'oh we met 3 weeks ago on match.com, and now we are engaged'

reads to me like 'we both fear that nobody else in the world would live with us, so we are settling for one in the bag asap... ' or 'i believe if you find someone you love, thats the 'one' person meant for you' as i said before.. both of which are entirely unture.

this is not to say that the '6 week of knowing someone' marriages are doomed, or cant be happy, just that marriage is a lifelong committment (ideally) and such decisions cannot possibly be well figured out in such a short time.

hell, I'd give more thought than that as to what tattoo i'd get, and thats hidable, and not likely to nag you, or take half your possessions and control of your kids

LOL

[Posh]

hrm.. alimony makes me sad.. its a step in the wrong direction.. and any couples who need crap like that.. starting on a bad foot imo. and even without alimony, women are statistically very likely to still get a good freaking chunk through divorce filings... planning out your divorce before you are even married just sounds horrible to me.

now, i never said that said person was actively out looking... at all.

I just said that many people get married because they think they found 'the one' as 'obviously' someone you get along with great.. must be the only person in the world for you...

then finding out later that it is not the case..

completely excluding the actual presence of a third party.. just that there *is* someone else out there for that person.. somewhere.

so while marriage is a grand thing.. if you are miserable.. and cant work it out... there are people out there tht can make you just as happy.

i dont hope that for myself, but of course i am not one of those people that would get married after only 6 mo of knowing someone... as at least one of my friends has...

we see that a lot more these days... 'oh we met 3 weeks ago on match.com, and now we are engaged'

reads to me like 'we both fear that nobody else in the world would live with us, so we are settling for one in the bag asap... ' or 'i believe if you find someone you love, thats the 'one' person meant for you' as i said before.. both of which are entirely unture.

this is not to say that the '6 week of knowing someone' marriages are doomed, or cant be happy, just that marriage is a lifelong committment (ideally) and such decisions cannot possibly be well figured out in such a short time.

hell, I'd give more thought than that as to what tattoo i'd get, and thats hidable, and not likely to nag you, or take half your possessions and control of your kids

LOL

A lot of people are scared of being "alone" and that's a part of being human.

People get touchy about that online dating thing so I'm gonna leave that alone. I have problems with it but there's people that swear by it. So I shrug and say whatever works for you.

[diablo2112]

People get touchy about that online dating thing so I'm gonna leave that alone. I have problems with it but there's people that swear by it.

Online dating totally and completely blows. Terrible way to find a potential mate. Unfortunately, my personal circumstances make this basically the only available choice. If there was any other way, believe me, I'd take advantage of it. And I'm still single after half a decade, so you can judge whether it's working.

I'm trying another method, which is a bit odd. More on this in a few months, then you'll all get to see how it works.

[Kollektor]

A lot of people are scared of being "alone" and that's a part of being human.

People get touchy about that online dating thing so I'm gonna leave that alone. I have problems with it but there's people that swear by it. So I shrug and say whatever works for you.

Thank you, Dr. Laura!

[Pugwash]

That's cool. I respect that but can I speak to Mrs. Pugwash for a second? Go get her and bring her to the computer. You there, Mrs. Pugwash? Okay, good. YOU WON'T GET ANY ALIMONY!
Alimony ensures that a man (or woman) continues to make the payments even if he decides to get a newer model. That is all. LOL

Are you still living in the 70s? You don't need to be married to get alimony.

Ps. Gold digger or Poe's Law? You decide.